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    Questions about software for fake photo manipulation

    Hello,
    I'm the new kid in town here
    I hope this forum is the correct place to ask my question, as it is actually about 18+ material and I've seen some nice photoshopping and other things here.

    Would it be okay to ask a question about those kind of graphic manipulation here?

    I'm asking beforehand because I had already written a detailed question about this issue (as my first post) on a different forum... and immediately got kicked there, because they might have regarded it as strange to write a first posting like that.

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    Re: Questions about software for fake photo manipulation

    Questions are never a bad thing so fire away !

    When we see our uniqueness as a virtue, only then do we find peace....

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    Re: Questions about software for fake photo manipulation

    Hey VTR, thank you.
    So this looks a bit longer, because it's detailled and I prepared it in advance

    I'm looking for an automated way to place faces (or rather entire heads!!) on suitable other bodies.

    And before you all say: "Oh, come on, just google it, there are trillions of apps around which do the job", please let me explain what I'm looking for and what not:

    Yes, there are tons of apps/programs/tools around which can do (some of them using very sophisticated A.I. and which I already found and am NOT looking for:
    • swap faces (keeping characteristics of the source face and apply it on facial expression of the destination face and blend it together into a new realistic photo)
      - for static photos we have e.g. Reflect
      - on gifs one could use something like ReFace
    • software (like Dreamtime) that "removes" clothing from a photo by keeping the original face and background, only replacing the clothed area by a nude image calculated by the body shape of the dressed person
    • X-Ray software which makes existing clothing on pictures transparent
    • face swap filters like from Instagram and many more which can motion capture even live videos easily (with poor results though) and replace the face by one of your choice


    Given that nowadays intelligent algorithms can do all the above mentioned with ease, I cannot believe why I haven't found a solution to a much easier task:
    A need a software which automatically:
    1. takes a face of picture A (or entire head with hair and so on) as it is:
    - keeping the facial expression
    - also keeping hairsytle, make-up, accessoires, facial hair, you name it...
    2. placing it on a body of picture B which should by itsself also remain as it is.
    3. Merge the two of them so that the transition looks realistically in respect to:
    - proportions
    - shading/colours/light
    4. Done!

    I do know that there are a lot of tutorials on how to do it manually, and my photo editing skills are good enough to create decent results by hand (5-10 minutes for a first impression, 30-60 minutes to make it look realistic). But doing it manually is the opposite of what I want here: The app should do the above by just 1 or 2 clicks, and do everything automated, surprising me with the result, maybe just with the option of making some little tweaks for the final finish.

    So, actually I think there has to be an algorithmic software which can do these (comparibly) simple tasks by itsself, and I just never found it.

    I'd be very happy if someone can recommend an app or a program which is capable of swapping heads in that manner.

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    Re: Questions about software for fake photo manipulation

    There is a section on the site for posting fakes: https://viper.cx/forums/248-Fake-Material

    You should take a look through that and maybe PM some of the members who post there and ask them what they use.

    Another point is that should you decide to make fakes and you want to post them on this site then the only place to do that is in the previously mentioned section.

    Best wishes in your quest.

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    Re: Questions about software for fake photo manipulation


    (❤️_❤️)



    Do you want to see what I did with Selena Gomez?

    https://viper.cx/threads/2856840-sel...post56354727



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    Re: Questions about software for fake photo manipulation

    @LiaLover:
    The pictures in your link look really nice Did you edit them all manually? Or is there an automated way for these kinds of things.

    I mean, when there are apps around which eeeeasily (and some with quite nice results) motion track facial expressions onto anyones face in realtime, or undress people (if the foto quality is suitable)... I assume for so-called artificial intelligences the job just like in your link to the Selena Gomez pictures should be even simpler?

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    Re: Questions about software for fake photo manipulation

    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaTaxi View Post
    @LiaLover:
    The pictures in your link look really nice Did you edit them all manually? Or is there an automated way for these kinds of things.

    I mean, when there are apps around which eeeeasily (and some with quite nice results) motion track facial expressions onto anyones face in realtime, or undress people (if the foto quality is suitable)... I assume for so-called artificial intelligences the job just like in your link to the Selena Gomez pictures should be even simpler?

    '' Did you edit them all manually? Or is there an automated '' = Both. Manually and with artificial intelligence




    ''I mean, when there are apps around which eeeeasily (and some with quite nice results) motion track facial expressions onto anyones face in realtime, or undress people (if the foto quality is suitable)... I assume for so-called artificial intelligences the job just like in your link to the Selena Gomez pictures should be even simpler?''

    = I don't understand what you are saying. Can you do more than one sentence.
    And be more clear

    I understand english. but what you say doesn't make sense at all to google translate.




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    Re: Questions about software for fake photo manipulation

    Hello,
    I did say it very detailed in my posting before: https://viper.cx/threads/5578788-Que...post71399560

    I'll try again in easy sentences which are maybe more suitable for google translate

    Is there any app on the market which automates the job of cutting out entire faces or heads and place them unaltered onto a different body?
    Actually a human graphics editor would have to go through all the same steps over and over again:
    - Finding a face and body whose perspectives are similar
    - Cut out the head of picture A, erase the head of picture B, camouflage the background here and there where it is needed.
    - Paste the head of picture A onto the body of picture B
    - adjust colours, contrast, brightness etc. to match.

    When having to do this (for myself) all by hand, this would be possible, but the result would be boring to me if I edited, let's say, 60 minutes on one photo until it looks good.
    This is why I want to have it automated.

    I'm surprised that I haven't found it yet because I expect that for today's algorithms it should be a comparibly easy task.
    There are a lot of apps around which to much more complicated calculated: Virtually undressing, x-ray, face swapping in photos and even gifs and videos, keeping dynamic facial expression and so on. If an artificial intelligence can do all those, why isn't there one that can "simply" put a static head on a static body, fulfilling all the routine work that I mentioned above?

    And as you're saying "both manually and with A.I.", which A.I. tools did you use?

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    Re: Questions about software for fake photo manipulation

    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaTaxi View Post
    Hello,
    I did say it very detailed in my posting before: https://viper.cx/threads/5578788-Que...post71399560

    I'll try again in easy sentences which are maybe more suitable for google translate

    Is there any app on the market which automates the job of cutting out entire faces or heads and place them unaltered onto a different body?
    Actually a human graphics editor would have to go through all the same steps over and over again:
    - Finding a face and body whose perspectives are similar
    - Cut out the head of picture A, erase the head of picture B, camouflage the background here and there where it is needed.
    - Paste the head of picture A onto the body of picture B
    - adjust colours, contrast, brightness etc. to match.

    When having to do this (for myself) all by hand, this would be possible, but the result would be boring to me if I edited, let's say, 60 minutes on one photo until it looks good.
    This is why I want to have it automated.

    I'm surprised that I haven't found it yet because I expect that for today's algorithms it should be a comparibly easy task.
    There are a lot of apps around which to much more complicated calculated: Virtually undressing, x-ray, face swapping in photos and even gifs and videos, keeping dynamic facial expression and so on. If an artificial intelligence can do all those, why isn't there one that can "simply" put a static head on a static body, fulfilling all the routine work that I mentioned above?

    And as you're saying "both manually and with A.I.", which A.I. tools did you use?

    OK cool.

    I will send you personal messages soon explaining how it works
    because it can be complicated to understand.

    And it will take more than one message before you get it all.

    And I don't want people to constantly see my messages
    appearing on the chit chat just to reply to one person.

    I don't want people to perceive me as I perceive someone
    that i constantly see writing useless things in the chat box on the main VG page : A real virus.








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    Re: Questions about software for fake photo manipulation

    Quote Originally Posted by LiaLover View Post
    OK cool.

    I will send you personal messages soon explaining how it works
    because it can be complicated to understand.

    And it will take more than one message before you get it all.
    Thank you very much. I'm really looking forward to learn something here

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaTaxi View Post
    Thank you very much. I'm really looking forward to learn something here




    Cool. Let me take the time to send you a good detailed message.


    https://viper.cx/threads/5990062-Victoria-Justice







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    btw: the vast majority of my fakes have not been posted on Vipergirls.




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